1 in 5 Brit Muslims’ sympathy for jihadis

NEARLY one in five British Muslims has some sympathy with those who have fled the UK to fight for IS in Syria.

The number among young Muslims aged 18-34 is even higher at one in four.

The figures emerged in our exclusive poll conducted after the Paris atrocities led by French and Belgian jihadis returning from the war zone.

Prominent Muslims said the poll was a wake-up call.

Labour London Mayor hopeful Sadiq Khan tells The Sun today: “It is clear that Britain needs to take its head out of the sand and act to tackle extremism and radicalisation at home.

“Tackling extremism is a challenge for everyone but I believe British Muslims have a special role to play.”

The survey’s findings show a clear majority of the 2.7million Brits who follow Islam are moderate.

Some 38 per cent of those polled say Muslims should not have to condemn terror acts carried out by IS. [The Sun] Read more

Poll: 1 In 5 British Muslims Has Sympathy With Jihadis

One in five British Muslims has at least some sympathy with those who have travelled to Syria to fight with Islamic State, a poll reveals.

The Survation poll of British Muslims for The Sun newspaper found that support was even higher among younger Muslims, with nearly one in four 18 to 34 year olds feeling some sympathy.

Support was also high Greater Manchester, where one in 10 Muslims said they had a “lot of sympathy” with their coreligionists who join the terror group.

Responding to the poll, the Labour Party’s London mayoral candidate Sadiq Khan said: “It is clear that Britain needs to take its head out of the sand and act to tackle extremism and radicalisation at home.

“Tackling extremism is a challenge for everyone but I believe British Muslims have a special role to play.”

Meanwhile 38 per cent of UK Muslims blame ISIS terror attacks on “Western foreign policy, such as the invasion of Iraq”, while the same number think Muslims should not have to condemn terrorist acts carried out in the name of Islam. [Breitbart London] Read more

Record complaints for Sun UK Muslim ‘jihadi sympathy’ story

The new press regulator has received a record number of complaints about a Sun story which claimed nearly one in five UK Muslims has “sympathy for jihadis”.

The Independent Press Standards Organisation said more than 1,200 people made contact over the front page piece, based on a poll by Survation.

…. The Sun’s story, based on a survey carried out after the Paris terrorist attacks, was published on Monday. It said figures have emerged showing nearly one in five British Muslims had sympathy for those who had fled the UK to fight for the Islamic State group in Syria.

But the Muslim Council of Britain, which represents mosques, schools and other associations in Britain, said the question posed had been about foreign fighters generally, “not the murderous death cult of Daesh or ISIS specifically, or indeed ‘Jihadis’ in general”.

The MCB accused The Sun of “sensationalising” the poll’s findings, adding: “As we know, foreign fighters belong to various backgrounds, fighting the brutal dictatorship of Bashar al-Assad and some are supported by the UK.” [BBC] Read more

Sun criticised by pollster behind controversial ‘jihadi sympathy’ story

…. The tabloid has been accused of misrepresenting the results of the poll, which showed that 5% of respondents agreed with the statement: “I have a lot of sympathy with young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria” and that 14.5% said they had “some sympathy”.

Critics argued that the use of the term “sympathy” was ambiguous and that it was not clear who was meant by “fighters in Syria”.

Ben Page, the chief executive of Ipsos Mori, said: “The main issue with this poll is the reporting, which made it appear that one in five of those sampled supported Isis, when in fact they were expressing sympathy with people going to fight in Syria, as I understand it, which could of course include British ex-servicemen fighting against Isis with the Kurds, or anti-Assad Muslim forces who are also fighting against Isis.” [The Guardian] Read more

Why the Sun’s ‘jihadi’ poll is dubious – and its headline dangerous

“1 in 5 Brit Muslims’ sympathy for jihadis” was the irresponsible, dangerous and grossly misleading front-page headline of Monday’s edition of the Sun – a tabloid whose circulation is the highest among the national press in the UK. This front page was published on the day we heard that hate crime against Muslims has soared by 300% since the horrific attacks in Paris, according to figures from a report to the government’s working group on anti-Muslim hatred.

Many Muslims across the country are not only sick and tired of scaremongering from our newspapers, but are also worried that such outrageous reporting will further inflame tensions across the country. Either the Sun is being dangerously irresponsible in order to sell papers, or it is intentionally playing dumb. Because any expert will warn of the fallacy of making such misleading inferences from this type of poll.

…. We do need a free press, able to report stories without fear, but can such a wilfully negligent and irresponsible front page, in the face of a record rise in hate crime against Muslims, really be acceptable in our society? The answer may not be regulation, but my hope is that it is improved religious literacy and basic decency. [Miqdaad Versi, Muslim Council of Britain, 762 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT 281 votes] Im sure this is going to be heavily moderated so I will say this.

1989, Salman Rushdie.

That is all.

[2ND 239] Something about a third supporting the fatwa and the open incitement to murder him in the streets.

[8TH 175] In other words a third of young British Muslims feel that religious sponsored murder is OK

And of course they didn’t all independently reach that view. It’s spelled out in the religious texts that every Muslim, to some degree, is required to accept as the ultimate truth.

[3RD 237] I hope most people would understand that being Muslim doesn’t automatically equate to being a terrorist. And The Sun are grossly offensive to everyone, not just Muslims.

All that said, there plainly is a connection between the beliefs that all Muslims hold (for one, that the Hadith is a template for how to live) and the beliefs that ISIS have taken to their murderous (but logically consistent) conclusion.

There’s also many polls that suggest a huge number of Muslims are (quietly) offended by a picture of the Prophet. It’s not hard to see the connection between that sentiment, and the actions of the Hebdo killers.

[4TH 207] “Regulation may not be the answer, but my hope is that improved religious literacy and basic decency is.”

What the flying fuck is “improved religious literacy?” I would prefer if the parables of ancient desert peoples were finally put in the bin quite frankly.

[5TH 206] “thus I consider it unislamic.”

So perhaps you should get together with the peaceful majority and start a campaign to change the verses and the Hadith to remove the problem passages?

Thats if not your not murdered for ‘blasphemy’ of course.

[6TH= 190] This poll is far less dubious that the Guardian wants the herd to think. It is however an important that we ask these question and find the truth, even if it hurts some very delicate sensibilities i.e. the Guardian.

However lets be honest the reason anyone is decrying this poll is because the want to stifle debate.

[6TH= 190] You can’t help but wonder if The Sun wrote the headline first then looked round for some evidence. However there are some worrying issues. A report Living Apart Together by Munira Mirza, Abi Senthilkumaran and Zein Ja’far found that 36% of 16 to 24-year-old British Muslims believe if a Muslim converts to another religion they should be punished by death, compared with 19% of over-55s. In other words a third of young British Muslims feel that religious sponsored murder is OK. I find that shocking and totally unacceptable.

[9TH 164] Only the other day in the Guardian was a statistic in an article pointing out that 28% of muslims want sharia law in this country. That alone sort of supports this poll. While sympathy isn’t active physical support, it does provide more support.

[10TH 135] Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

What does this instruction mean?

The fact that anyone allows themselves to be dictated to by this nonsense is worrying in itself.

‘Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”

[11TH 125] The polls are not technically incorrect though are they.

If 20% have ‘sympathy’ for the terrorists motives and feelings, then they should be fucking ashamed of that.

[12TH 115] Interestingly the more I read of the Koran (I assume this is what is meant by improved religious literacy) the more worrying I find it. Religious education, if carried out properly and not just used as a tool for indoctrination more often than not leads to condemnation of religion.

I’m not sure what profound revelations the author is hoping we’ll find in this endeavor.

[13TH 104] Guardian readers shell shocked, reeling and in total disarray after Paris…. multicultural model failing before their eyes … none of the old, trusted liberal paradigms make sense. What to do?

…..Obvious, really! Attack the Sun! [Guardian Cif] Read more

Pollsters for Sun’s jihadi sympathy story called list of ‘Muslim names’

A poll purporting to show that one in five British Muslims had “sympathy for jihadis” was constructed by calling people with “Muslim surnames” in an effort to complete an affordable survey of opinion in the week after the Paris terror attacks.

Survation – the polling company used by the Sun – said it had picked out likely respondents using the help of an academic expert on naming, a method that rival polling companies said did not necessarily amount to a representative sample of the British Muslim population.

The controversial methodology was used to underpin a front-page story in Monday’s edition of the Sun – headlined 1 in 5 Brit Muslims’ sympathy for jihadis – after 19.5% of those surveyed said that they had either a lot or some sympathy with young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria. [The Guardian] Read more

Statement on Survation’s Poll of Muslims for The Sun

…. Notwithstanding there is a distinction between the work we conduct, how we interpret and present our finding and how clients chose to present our work.

However, to be very clear. Survation do not support or endorse the way in which this poll’s findings have been interpreted.

Neither the headline nor the body text of articles published were discussed with or approved by Survation prior to publication. Our own coverage and analysis written on the day of publication can be found here:

Furthermore, Survation categorically objects to the use of any of our findings by any group, as has happened elsewhere on social networks, to incite racial or religious tensions. [Survation] Read more